Some climate research uses models that assume “a miracle will occur” – like IPCC modelling that says we can stay under 2C of global warming while maintaining business-as-usual. Then there is climate research based on real world data – like new work led by Professor James Hansen showing 10C of warming already in the pipeline. This is collapse. #TalkCollapse
Just Collapse 
Of course we shouldn’t trust the climate models. They have been wrong over and over again. Al Gore predicted extinction by 1995. James Hansen’s famous congress speech…extinction by 1999. 7 times the Arctic was predicted to be gone, melted in 2-3 years. Didn’t happen. The science was never settled. We just had the 3 coldest years, world wide, hundreds of cold records broken, crops lost to frost….not heat. Maybe manmade CO2 will eventually prove to be more of a factor then it has been but there needs to be an open forum and discussion of this, not a shutting down of the many scientists who understandably question the man made global warming narrative. There are other large forces of nature that the manmade CO2 group do not include in their models – sun cycles, solar radiation, weak earth magnetic fields, geothermal heating of oceans. water vapor(93% of greenhouse gases), cosmic radiation, heat sink islands and more. Most temperatures are taken in cities and airports which are notorious many degrees warmer. Why use such faulty measurements? Why is it suddenly all about manmade CO2? The climate models have been wrong over and over again. We need better ones, not the current ones always based on worst case scenarios. Lets keep the discussion open.
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There are clearly quite a few things your don’t understand – including the difference between real world data, models, predications and conjecture.
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https://electroverse.info/climate-change-denying-statements-by-former-ipcc-scientists/
I have also seen a list of the heads of almost every major universities climate science division saying the human caused global warming has not held up to scrutiny. The models are consistently wrong. As a long time active member in global warming climate groups it has been a shock to realize that the IPCC scientists lied, and still lie. Good luck with keeping your mind open. And, collapse is still happening in almost every aspect of human society, just not because of CO2.
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Oh man the same predictable boring denialist crap. There’s just no argument anymore on whether agw is occurring, it’s just a matter of how much. btw all models are wrong, again it’s a just a matter of how much.
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